looking into the president of the united states as quite possibly a traitor? >> we've never been there before. we've been in a situation before where the fbi was investigating people close to the president of the united states when that happened with nixon. we've never had a president before had to be investigated for possible treason or a conspiracy with a foreign country, or being the puppet of a foreign country. these are extremely dangerous situations. there's not -- there's no blueprint for that. i'm sure in the fbi headquarters you can answer that. there's no manual that said, the president may have committed treason, here's what you do. they're on uncharted grounds and it's scary and dangerous. they obviously are sensitive to some of the points that were raised. this is a democracy. we can't have law enforcement taking down the president. but in a democracy, the president can't be above the law. so how to do it? >> what luz says, malcolm, is