>> just for your information, this is a confirmed fire, approximately 20 acres, mid slope. >> as i was listening to them, watching it get darker and darker, realizing that the planes were not going to come. >> do we have any, a way to get any aircraft down here, is there any available? >> division three, that's negative for aircraft. it's after cutoff. >> they had a very difficult time finding an access point to get to the fire. >> the fire still looks to be approximately 20-25 acres. very difficult access. we're still trying to look at some options to get in on this thing but it's going to be a while. not sure if we'll be able to get folks in tonight or not. >> the road structures were narrow, little, nasty -- a fire engine could barely make it down there, much less 30 or 40 of them, and crew buses and everything that's needed to -- to get in there. it was just a really bad