lost faith in what they were doing. you have a bipartisan group hashing something out. you can't help but feel a little optimism for the way congress used to work that they're doing something and something will come of this. what's your takeaway from the fact that this group, largely veterans, has managed to seems to come to some sort of agreement and yet it's going to be this all likelihood stymie d by the white house? >> will it be -- i'm not the political reporter. it seems to me -- what options does donald trump have at this point? if he does the national emergency, it's going to be hung up in the courts. it's not going to work. maybe he throws in the towel and finds a way to save face. >> i hope so. that's only -- he will probably claim a win even if he does throw in the towel. no matter what happens, he is going to claim a win. i hope that he sees the light just because of the pain and perhaps the polling he received post first shutdown.