faith. everybody's got to stop saying this is all about -- if this is about winning and losing, it's not. it's about what's good for the american public. the public wants border security. the public doesn't want a government shutdown. you know, i ran basically saying we've got to change direction in washington, we need to have term limits. you do a shutdown, you don't pass a budget, congress shouldn't get paid. we've got to make sure people start working together, and i think everybody's got to figure out how to do that, and i'm going to try my best to be part of that. >> what is it you think is a reasonable compromise at this point? would you advise the president to take half of the money he's asking for at this point, actually come to a compromise, acknowledge a divided government? what would your advice be to the president? i know you and him are professionally very close. >> what i would say to him is we have to have border security. from my standpoint what i would want is i want a permanent fix. let's fund and let's talk to -- which i did a week or so ago. i sat down with border security. what do you need?