he wants to get into a fight but what he will do is use them as a way of changing the subject matter and getting himself involved in that democratic primary. he likes being in the news cycle, he won't give it up to challengers or potential challengers to him so expect more of it. >> who do you think either announced or unannounced basil that would give the president the hardest time? >> a lot of people have talked about joe biden. i'll also throw in amy klobuc r klobuchar, midwestern democrat who i love to hear speak and she's a tremendous sort of force within the democratic party. i think any of those two plus all of the ones that actually have the v g have gotten in the race so far, they can nudge and needle the president and republicans going into this election cycle and that's what's going on interesting because with so many, how do they stake out that specific lane for themselves? >> very good point. anyone going to challenge the