do you concur? >> yeah, think that's right, in a way. you can walk out of an oval office interview with the president and he has said so many things that are by normal political standards pretty sometimes provocative, wild, things other politicians wouldn't say. this interview, he was more careful. it was more sticking, you know, within the lanes of traditional politics a lot more. you know, denying he'd done anything wrong in a number of instances. talking about his record. trying to make the best case for what he's done so far. and taking on nancy pelosi. but not in the way he has done in the past. you know, i remember going in to see him in july of 2017, for instance, the first time i interviewed him with maggie and my colleague, mike schmidt, and he went off on jeff sessions. it was sort of the beginning of what would become a year and a half of badgering jeff sessions until he finally got fired. we didn't expect that to be part of the interview, yet he just sort of introduced it. we didn't have anything quite that surprising today but a lot of the things he said were significant, are important and will be examined, i think, as part of, you know, the understanding of what these investigations are telling us, where we are with things like the border wall dispute. >> this president still sometimes not used to the scrutiny or everything being shared. also seems to wear his feelings on his exterior, like his tell that he's uncomfortable is often to wrap himself up in his own arms, which your piece notes he did when the subject of russia came up.