i just wasn't interested in doing that particular job. so it's not like i'll say yes to anything. in fact, i've said no to almost everything. >> in fact, your buddy jared has said no. >> the only thing i've said yes is the opioid commission which i feel passionate about and i'm glad i did. >> what have you been successful in changing this president's mind on? >> going all the way back to the campaign, a number of different things. like convincing him to lay off judge curiel. and knock that stuff off. to lay off the khans. and stop that whole level of assault. >> a lot of damage was done. >> sure. and you read in the book it was the family that brought me in to talk to him at those times. on judge curiel it was ivanka. on the khans it was jared, who called me and said we think he'll listen to you, come and talk to him. we'll start with the campaign in doing that. to changing debate prep into something that was much more professional and much more useful which i think made him a better performer in the second