>> i spoke to donald trump yesterday. he's good spirits. >> can you did he vulg to us some of those middle of the night phone conversations you had with mr. trump >> you know, i really can't and it's been my policy not to discuss personal conversations with him otherwise it will end in all zblons give me a psychological profile we got there. he wants to tease the idea that he's on the inside and then he gives you a denial >> he's like the pt bar numb of public statements. he's getting everybody excited but he has a very legalese type answer the reality is speaking as often as he did, some of his statements not just to congress, but to us were inconsistent. and it becomes very not credible to actually believe that everyone -- that he never spoke with donald trump.