because this is the president's shutdown. >> correct. >> he wanted the shutdown. he has not spoken at all about new technology. he just talks about the nonsense wall that sam nunnburg came up with build a wall while he was on the campaign. talk about graham and other republicans who could be working with democrats here and not standing with the president. because mcconnell isn't talking. he's been quiet. >> the most interesting thing with the meetings is the fact that mitch mcconnell doesn't say anything. if there was a deal in the works, real negotiation, mitch mcconnell would be there. and you got to give credit to graham for at least trying to come up with a compromise. does strike me a little naive, you know, how many times do you have to have lucy take the football away before you realize you're not going to be able to make a deal with somebody like trump who is an unreliable negotiator, they've been down this path and frankly i don't think donald trump wants a deal.

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