your point here is that an old model in which folks were ati t tempting to evade so they could get in, in an unauthorized fashion, that's not the issue. these folks are not trying evade security. they're seeking out american custom and border patrol, seek out american officials specifically to ask them to petition for asylum and no amount of security answers that problem. >> that's exactly right. a wall doesn't doctor's that. a wall doesn't give our border patrol agents the training they need, whether it be insuring they are certified emts or access to personnel or access to more humane temporary holdings. >> thank you both for your time. >> thank you. in about half an hour every major tvr network, including