and he is frequently prone, as we have seen, to veer off message and even to pull the rug out from under his own negotiators and to change his mind at the last minute, which is what brought us to this moment now. there is a federal pay raise to capital officials as well as vice president pence. that's set to take effect today. there's a law that's expiring, a freeze on top level federal pay. the vice president and others have said they will not accept the pay raise. mean while, president trump signed something that would set aside the scheduled pay raise for a million and more federal workers. so a lot going on back and forth. the house and the senate have both put in bills to allow retroactive pay to federal workers when and if this shutdown ever ends. the president has said it could go on for years and even months. >> and we should be clear. the goal post has not moved thus far with the negotiations. the president is still pushing for the 5 billion.