congress who might also prefer if that's the case because that potentially gives them somebody they can say the democrats have got some extra leverage here. maybe it gives them room to carve out a deal they wouldn't right now. >> well, i think that's kind of right. and steve, right now, democrats have no power. republicans are in charge of everything. they managed to shut down account government all by themselves, controlling the presidency and both houses of congress, and this is where we are. come january 3rd, democrats will be -- will have some power. they have the house and so i expect that they'll pass a funding bill without wall funding, and the president will say that's unacceptable. and who knows where we go from there. there isn't a lot of incentive for democrats to start putting offers on the table, particularly since as we've seen, you can get a deal signed, sealed and delivered except when

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