court here in new york and other cases as well. trials are expenses to put on because you sometimes have to travel people in to be able to testify. so in the manafort trial, that occurred during this time period. $4.568 million. >> the acting attorney general of the united states has written op-eds on how to starve the mueller investigation. how to end it by starving it of funds. that's the thing people like to talk about. >> as to whether that's applicable or something that could occur, i mean, i seem to think, you know, you look back at some of the major investigations that have occurred in this country. whether the 9/11 commission, whether the watergate investigation, whatever it is, any time you have something that involves the executive branch and something that involves our elections or the safety and sanctity of the country going forward, it's probably worthwhile to spend the money on that. but we'll see in the end when everything comes together what exactly it is they're spending their money on.