known rodney? >> ronnie? >> ronnie. >> i have known him for many years, a long time. >> before he came here? >> yes. >> were you in love with him then? >> i wouldn't say in love with him, but i loved him. >> this is not just a contract you're signing. >> i understand that. it's a covenant. >> it is a covenant you're making with him, you know, and this makes it much, much more serious. >> there are certain people that are allowed to come into the prison to perform these wedding ceremonies. he was one of them. they didn't know each other ahead of time. he was obviously trying to counsel her. >> he'll have this black mark against him. >> i know that. i already know. i mean, i have known people that's come out of prison and some even being family and they are -- it's hard -- the hardest thing i think i seen is jobs. people don't want to employ them. >> right. normally, i just flat turn down weddings here because i find in most cases the men are just