structure. not a political hack but a political organizer who has been very successful in dealing with large egos of elected politicians. i think if it is nick i think you'll be very surprised at the tenure that comes out and nick has been smart enough to say he's not going to be there that long. >> he's a smart guy. he's considered part of the republican establishment and we all know how much the president disdains the republican establishment. if he does get the job, i'm going to start that countdown clock right away. you know, there was something said that kelley brought a lot of stability to the white house, to the job. everyone watched this little montage. chief of staff kelly brought something else to this job. >> the vast majority of the people that move illegally into the united states are not bad people. they are not criminals.