>> there is no chance i'd testify against the president. i'd have to bear false witness. i'd have to make things up and i'm not going to do that. i've had no discussion regarding a pardon. >> e.j., i have another question for you. i want maria-teresa kumar to take that one. clearly, i'm not going to do that. i've had no discussions regarding a pardon. doth the lady protest too much? >> what's so interesting is if folks join me in going back to the future in june where he was basically saying, well, mueller must not have anything on me because he hasn't called. sit tight, roger, after tuesday. the tables may have turned. i think what you're seeing is this evidence of roger stone saying, don't worry. if something happens, i want to make sure something happens when it comes to me when you are thinking down to the pardon. >> e.j., here's the clip i want you to react to.