respond. these court documents say that's false. in fact, michael cohen got a call from the president's office, from putin's office, his representatives saying sure, we would like to engage you on this trump tower moscow project. let's talk about it, and they had a conversation. when cohen was asked about this under oath before the senate he lied and said that never happened. the other thing he lied about was the timing, saying he ended all involvement in this project in january 2016. the court documents show that they were still working on it as of june 2016, chris. >> wow! that's a lot to take in. in terms of the overall picture, fair to say that what we are just learning here -- we certainly aren't learning everything that robert mueller knows by a far piece, but these are important developments. and they give us a good clue about where he is going with this. >> they are. now, they don't speak to anything to do with russian interference in the 2016 election, right? remember there's an allegation in the dossier that michael