he's trying to get ronald vitiello confirmed, he help sd oversee the separation of migrant children from their families. here to talk about all those immigration changes, faiz shakir. let's start with the new nominee to head i.c.e., the aclu is opposed. he has years and years of experience in the agency. what's your opposition? >> he was just on fox news a couple days ago talking about the huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the so-called migrant caravan. he said game on. it reveals his mind-set, a giddiness of an aggressor who wants to deploy forces and beat up on people who he sees as subhuman, others. and that has been his mentality when he was the head of i.c.e. he viewed the family separation crisis as a good thing. he framed it as deterrence. we now see migrants coming across to america, family separation did not deter anybody.