this could happen to you. the chilling thing is the saudis might not mind the attention this is getting because it's getting that message across. and if you take that and on top of that, you have a u.s. president who seems more concerned at protecting mohammed bin salman and protecting the saudi government after this action, then that message is only come pounded. and there are plenty of other governments around the world who would do harm to journalists, who would do harm to dissidents who will take comfort in the fact that the united states is no longer figuring out what consequences we can impose on a country like saudi arabia after they do this, we're figuring out how to get them through this. >> heidi, i don't mind going to general quarters on this where i usually go. i think it has to do with his family, jared, his son-in-law, he's been his vice when it comes to dealings with the arab world. i think he feels somehow he's in bed with this royal family over there, that his sort of romanoff phony family and their family seen to be locked together.