consistent, and powerful voice for america's interests and democratic principles on the world stage. she challenged friend and foe to be better. i am sadden thad she is leaving the the trump republican party and the more mainstream conservative traditional republican party, so she has been part of both wings of the republican party. now it's clearly the trump party that is predominant, and we don't know where she's going to end up, but she has maintained a railroad of independence or reputation for independence even while being in the inner circle and saying that she is private about her objections or disagreements with the president, if any, making it as you pointed out earlier only really clear after charlottesville that she had split with the president. >> andrea, mitchell, i will let you get back to your phone calls and text messages because i know you're working this story. let me bring in former deputy assistant secretary of state joel ruben. you've been on before talking