look, here is the problem. this whole process is not designed to get at the truth and now you have this lawyer, katz, who is representing blasey. and they're putting all these conditions on a hearing. and i think this is maybe backfiring on the republicans -- not the republicans a little bit, but on the democrats a little bit. >> but on the democrats and, donnie, you're a pr guy. if you're running pr for the republicans, the last thing that you want is to have dr. ford testifying on the committee. so is it more preconditions they set down, the more you're going, thank you, thank you, now if you can make it on a rocket ship to mars, thank you. make this as impossible as you can for us. it seems to me that at some point the democrats are going to have to step in and say, listen, we need your client up there.