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that lindsey graham has met his match, that lindsey graham is not going to beat dr. ford at this game. >> i think that's right. you know, this is a very strategic thing they've done, but it's also the right thing that they're asking to do. >> right, exactly. that is a very important point, bob. i don't mean to reduce this to a strategic issue. as senate insiders, i'm hugely impressed at that level. your point is the important one. it is the right thing to do. >> right from the start when these allegations finally became public, my thought back to the anita hill hearing was that exactly the wrong way to determine whether the allegations that dr. ford has made are true and whether brett kavanagh is telling the truth when he categorically denies them is to have a hearing with 19 senators going back and forth in 10-minute rounds questioning these two witnesses. an investigation which allows for all people with relevant information to be questioned and

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