and it kept going. >> this one happened to break news because it was all one p p perpetrator. it happens to one in five women and one in ten women, especially on college campuses. we need to have these conversations all the time about we have the obligation and the change the way we talk to survivors, the way we believe them and guide them on their journey to recovery or their journey to prosecution. it's up to the survivor how they want to integrate that into their identity. once you're a survivor, you're never not. we have to think about that. >> that's an interesting point. there's so much focus on accountability. the criminal justice system is how we think about. but it's good to think about the perspective of the survivor. >> i was faced with a situation where i have a great support system, but i knew that i wasn't going to have that much support from the legal side if i decided to come forward. so i never reported my abusers.