i've voted for people who are a little more moderate in the past. now i think we need to go progressive and get rid of some of the old ideas. >> that is kind of the interesting thing, right. progressive ideas are always portrayed, but for a lot of voters they're sort of tired of sort of the -- is it voters are tired of what the democratic party has been presenting, a safe candidate, nonthreatening, rather than gillum, no, these are my ideas? >> absolutely. every time i see this narrative of the civil war in the democratic party it drives me bonkers. if there's any civil war it's in the republican party. we saw that in full display yesterday. i think this woman is on to something. look at andrew gillum, look at stacy abrams in georgia, beto owe rourke in texas, look at ben in maryland, something is going on. it's not -- eric is right. this is no longer hillary versus bernie thing.