however, what we're hearing on the hill is that a lot of members of the senate, republicans in the senate, who had kind of been the wall against this kind of move, this kind of ouster by the president, that wall is crumbling. they are starting to prepare for what they believe is the ultimate eventuality, is that the president is going to boot his attorney general. >> it sounds like you've got lots of quotes in that article from some interesting folks. lots of quotes from senators saying, he's going to do what he's going to do, and not sounding like they're going to sort of ride herd on this. but you've also got rudy giuliani on the record telling you, we think we've got him convinced not to do this. >> well, rudy said a slight differentiation of -- i would differentiate slightly. he basically said, look, we've come to an agreement that this is not going to happen until the investigation is concluded. he doesn't want to go into the details of his conversation with the president, which i respect and understand. >> sure. >> however, it's clear and it's