republicans for two specific congress ma congressmen and their conduct, it's a good talking point. >> this is not draining the swamp. the swamp is getting thicker. >> we would say he is not responsible for the conduct of collins -- >> is he responsible for the conduct of cohen? maybe not manafort because manafort d these things before he was involved with trump or maybe not with trump's knowledge. michael cohen, i mean that's directly implicating the president. >> michael cohen is directly implicating the president. his only implication he has is are on these two payments to women, to mcdougal -- >> two serious campaign -- >> but as far as his lawyer, lanny davis said yesterday, multiple interviews, not with you, but he said he doesn't have any new information on the trump tower -- >> so is russia the only crime that the president is able to commit that would hurt him? is that what you are saying? >> if there is nothing going on with this russian collusion and investigation, the idea that you have lindsey graham and chuck grassley saying sessions -- one