given that he made this agreement, this plea, without necessarily a cooperation nl agreement that we know of where he didn't need to implicate the president. >> my level of surprise on a ten scale is a one. it was a foregone -- >> ten being the most. >> this was a foregone conclusion in my mind inevitably michael cohen was going to plead. when you look at the potential sentencing guidelines in any economic crime with losses approaching a million or more, you are looking at a very, very high sentencing level. the only way to drag that sentencing range down is, first, acceptance of responsibility, you plead guilty, and, two, a 5k 1 motion, substantial assistance cooperation with prosecutors. i just want to stress the fact that there's no evidence that he's cooperating now doesn't mean that he's not cooperating behind the scenes and it doesn't mean that he might not cooperate in the future. you know, the federal rules allow for cooperation to happen