that people talk about with a federal election commission violation is that they're often not pursued and they're often not, they don't have strict penalties. you have said, i know in march when you were talking to us at nbc, you said the fec is understaffed, particularly from an enforcement perspective. >> yes. it is understaffed, absolutely. and that was purposeful. but there are other reasons why matters are not enforced and that's because there's a stalemate on the fec because investigate something or to regulate many of the violations go unpunished. and actually even not investigated. but, this is an investigation that was done by a u.s.

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