our cybersecurity defenses. >> some experts are saying this is a cat and mouse game, it's like playing whack-a-mole, you get after one and another pops up. so how can you really protect the elections as the midterms approach? >> i think that it is a cat and mouse game, in part. we need systemic responses. the kind of step we're announcing today, this account guard initiative, is a systemic feature. i think the kind of step we took last week is systemic in the sense that we've now been able to apply the strategy 84 times. but ultimately i think we also need to recognize something that is more sobering. there is clearly innovation on the other side. we're going to have to continue to innovate as well. i think it's fundamental to what it means to protect democracy in the 21st century. >> mr. smith, the president as recently as last night was suggesting there could be other players, it could be china who