loved news. she watched news all the time. she would call me and talk about politics and what's going on and what's happening. then she would encourage those of us in news, shaun robinson, entertainment journalist, tamryn hall, same thing. she was a news junky. it was just great to know her and great to see her. any time we were talking and i cherish those conversations where we would just talk about whatever or text about whatever. that's how she was. >> i should say roland and to everybody who knew her and loved her, we're so sorry for your loss and it's a loss we all share even those of us who don't have her personal number in our phone. but this has been a really joyous conversation in many ways because as we listen to that music in the background, it is so joyous. i just want to read from eric holder, of course the former attorney general, i'm so