gang violence and domestic violence, domestic abuse. >> yeah, 100% correct. and historically the people that would come to this country seeking asylum were unaccompanied minors like we've talked a lot about and women and children with their families. and the case that jeff sessions actually hand picked involved a woman and her child fleeing one of these exact circumstances. basically overturn it and say we're not going to accept cases lie like that any more. >> nick, going back to the muslim ban incompetently carried out in the trump presidency, if the through line is being disparaged by federal judges, i'm sure some appointed by republicans, incompetence has a pretty hefty price on the lives of the most vulnerable. these are just incompetently carried out policies of people in studios they can talk about and poke holes in. these are people whose lives are literally on the line based on the cruelty of the trump