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perjury trap. that's a legitimate investigative question. classic perjury trap is when you ask about something extra that doesn't have anything to do with it to try to trick the guy into lying. classic example there, ken starr, he's investigating this failed real estate transaction and he asks president clinton, did you have sex with monica lewinsky. he knows he's going to lie. that's a trap. asking questions about obstruction of justice and perjury in the mueller investigation is not a trap. >> and they have all the questions. they know the areas. the flash points in the obstruction of justice investigation are known knowns to the trump legal team. it's the effort to get jeff session s to unrecuse. the efforts to get comey to see to it to let mike flynn go. the flash points are known to them. so why is there so much anxiety all of a sudden now around these obstruction of justice questions? i've heard in the last week from people who have either been around this legal effort or

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