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my heart -- >> i know, we've spoken about it. >> did that come up? >> when? >> in the meeting with -- >> that was the primary thing that we had spoken about in the meeting. that was -- that's not the premise that got them in the room and then they started -- it was essentially a bait and switch to talk about that. everyone has basically said that in testimony already. >> it was a bait and switch. so it's again don junior saying i took the meeting because this was political dirt and then they wanted to talk about adoptions. >> and he was disappointed and who knows what else was said in the meeting. that doesn't help us very much but what else do you have which would be illegal solicitation of support from a foreign national. >> the late charles krauthammer wrote last year bungled collusion is still collusion. don junior keeps saying nothing came out of it. does that mastter? >> no. it could be an illegal -- this

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