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how much this narrative has changed. as geoff mentioned just a moment ago, donald trump jr. was on capitol hill. he testified before the house intelligence committee for six, seven hours about this meeting. how much has this story changed? >> it's evolved greatly. and i want to take you back to september of 2017. almost a year ago. when donald trump jr. testified in front of the senate judiciary committee. the day after he testified, senator chris coons, who is a senior democrat on that committee, his office sent out the u.s. code statute for giving false statements to congress. he sent it out just basically as a reminder that, hey, you know, a hardy reminder, saying if you lie to congress, that's a crime. and he was in the context of donald trump jr.'s interview with the committee. so there has been a healthy dose of skepticism among those on capitol hill who have been greatly involved in this investigation, and questioning the people involved in that meeting for a long time now. and you know, it's been almost a year since donald trump jr. testified in front of the senate judiciary committee. other congressional committees

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