pieces of payment that manafort has either touch or signed to prove its case and they'll jazz it up a little bit. they'll have rick gates and others to narrate the case which the jury will undoubtedly find a little more interesting than looking at paper. still, you have to wonder why he was holding out. why he wasn't pleading guilty. i thought we might see a bit of a twist. what his defense would be during opening statements. instead we got the my underling defense did it. it's a bit of a yawner. something juror there's occasionally show interest in. it doesn't seem like a strong defense. i was surprise that had we didn't see a better opener. >> are you able to answer the question, why is manafort holding out? >> there are a couple of