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ohio, he's not going to be out there saying these tariffs that the president has implemented on steel and aluminum are a bad thing. is that going to change? >> i think there's two things. one, just on your previous point, the idea that a septigenari septigenarian waving a can of coke shows how ill prepared they are to push back on what are some real legitimate questions to pass down. >> this is a classic moment on television. >> yes. >> but fair. >> look, there are always differences on both sides of this issue, but i don't think you will find a democrat that thinks the solution to building a robust economy is providing endless amounts of aid to any community while not dealing with the underlying issues at stake, right? that's the primary issue, that there is no cohesive policy on the part of this administration. when you have sherrod brown on, he can layout what he believes are the key points of a fair trade agreement regardless of what that agreement is.

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