unfixable. michael cohen has resolved himself, has made peace with the fact or is making peace with the fact that he's never going to have a relationship with trump again. that he can't go back, that this is done. at the same time, the president has semd aaccepted and is very ready for this project that his outside allies are going to undertake of trying to nuke michael cohen's credibility. any ounce of credibility michael cohen has is a liability for trump, so we're going to see the president's outside allies do everything in their power to undermine him. >> we saw yesterday obviously rudy giuliani talking about michael cohen has been a liar his whole life, which is hilarious because rudy giuliani himself called michael cohen honest just a few months ago in the role that michael cohen once had. we also saw the drudge report call him a rat. david, you've reported on trump for years. what do you make of it? >> well, michael cohen clearly has done, as betsy put it, a complete break here and he's a terrible threat to donald