weeks, try to muddy up michael cohen's reputation and soil him, if you will, as a potential witness. and if they don't have a corroborating witness, they need some other sourcing for that. i want to play candidate trump speaking to peter schmidt and maggie haberman, what's the date on this, michael? >> last july. >> so this is when he was president, july of last year, the famous "wish i hadn't hired jeff sessions." >> "if i knew he was going to recuse himself." >> it was a remarkable evening, i was at the aspen security conference with people from national security, people were saying jeff sessions was so humiliated he would have to quit right now, and of course he did not. let's play the tape. >> it must have been a very important -- must have been a very unimportant meeting because i never heard that.