but they did not exchange the traditional handshake. how much to read into that will be for others to decide. juncker also pointing out we shouldn't talk at each other, we should talk to each other, and appreciating the chance to come to the white house and to speak in the oval office. but the president was in some ways delivering spoken tweets. he was saying the kinds of things we are seeing on twitter about wanting no barriers to trade and that that would be better. so the president not really moving much in his public statements on his position, what happened behind the scenes or will happen with the delegations involved here we'll have to see. >> kelly o., thank you. josh, we heard president trump say that he wants a level playing field with the european union. how unlevel is that field right now? >> well, i mean, what the president is focused on is the trade deficit. basically that they send us more in goods than we send to them. that is a thing that trips him up in terms of trying to negotiate what he is talking