i know they know the truth. >> let's bring a democratic strategist and republican national spokesperson with us. welcome to you both. kailee, with you first. four of the accusers have spoken with nbc news. "the wall street journal" has spoken with a fifth. do you think the allegations should be taken seriously? why would jim jordan say all of them know the truth? why would they all be lying? >> well, because he knows the truth which is that he did not know about the allegations, and if he did, he would have come out immediately to try to resolve the issue. so he has flat out denied this. it's worth pointing out the irregularities here which congressman jordan pointed to. two of the accusers have some pretty colored histories. one served prison time for a fraud scheme involving millions