jabber box. they couldn snl couldn't makeup a skit -- >> reading this, what is wrong with him? i think the thing, too, is that how, like how did it take so long? in any -- i know we're talking about we found the floor, but in any regular administration, whether it's a republican or democratic presidential administration, he would have been gone a long time ago. what i do want to say, he is the swamp. but the cabinet itself of the trump administration is problematic. you have interior secretary, the education secretary, you have the commerce secretary. i'm sure i'm missing one so somewhere there. and they are a walking conflict of interest. they are a walking ethical black hole. he was just the worst of the worst. >> hans, it's a good point. you cover the pentagon and the white house for us, but you look at h.r. mcmaster, arguably a man of significantly greater