people were -- >> you did not find the i did crimes post-it that was run through a shredder. >> and to be clear there's nothing in here that mentions putin or collusion or anything of that sort pf. >> jason leopold, great to have you. for more -- >> i appreciate it. >> -- on the cohen probe i'm joined by nbc news investigative reporter tom winter. tom, one of the sort of precipitating incidents that appears in terms of the timing of all this, the end of the joint defense agreement-s a new lawyer, guy petrillo. he's someone who actually worked in the southern district of new york, right? >> yeah, absolutely, chris. he's a very well-respected attorney, well known in the southern district, somebody who has a significant experience and background both white-collar crime and just overall crime in general. he's somebody who comes from a little bit of a smaller firm but is somebody who's very respected. i just want to briefly touch on that report that you were referring to with abc. this was something that was ordered by the judge. so the judge actually put the