so the stigmatizing of good and decent people in the insult given to the muslim soldiers who have served this country, who have sacrificed, it is appalling. > the's also a similarity here that strikes me what's happening on the border and here. in both cases the president talks about ms-13 and i.c.e. those are two groups genuinely ivl. there's no real supports are of them. what he does picy se is people fleeing i.s.i.s. from syria and people fleeing the murders in guatemala trying to flee to this country, those are the people that end up caught in the gears of his demonization of those groups. >> you look at regression of democracy to an oughtocracy. all through history, when you look at violations of civil liberties they have always occurred through a prism of fear, fear is a contagion. it erodes democratic values and institutions but always in the name of security that civil lishes are col pro mized and