they had parents who was very self-focus and while they gave them so much. >> they were essentially raised by staff. >> two nannies and ivanka's parents were very much available for their young childhood as well. their parents were around, they lived in trump tower, they worked in trump tower, they saw their dad every day but it was not a traditional father, son relationship as well. >> so go through each kid and sort of what it is that's going on with them now. what role they play. >> actually michael cohen who has been in the news a lot, the first time i interviewed him gave me a fantastic way to think about the kids. he said that the president had five children in the hopes that one would turn out like him, that the odds were in his favor if he had five children, but the reality was that each child had