funding paul manafort's work in ukraine. >> yes. this is a way that they overlap. we have no indication that fotiadis and paul manafort would have overlapped. often these oligarchs, they keep their worlds very compartmentalized. so the idea your architect would interact with your political consultant, experts said that was unlikely. but this architect, then he shows up, then he's doing trump's projects in batumi. he did a trump project in florida that was never built. he designed trump astana's kazakhstan tower. and what we found was there was this three-legged stool. when trump would go into these eastern european licensing deals it would be trump the salesman, it would be michael cohen the lawyer, and it would be fotiadis the architect. and in order to get tees licensing deals and to seal it trump needed to bring an architect with him so there was something to sell and a lawyer so that they could sign the deal