giuliani is now saying if we don't get access to materials that should not be provided to the defense but if we don't get access, we're not going to make the president available and essentially trying to brow beat the justice department into giving congress materials that can be then surreptitiously shared with the president's defense team. all of that ought to concern us in the aggregate as much as any particular firing. > congressman adam schiff, thanks for being with me. >> thanks. >> for more on the russia investigation, the president's campaign to up end it, barbara boxer of california and former state department official jake sullivan who is deputy chief of staff to of hillary clinton. jake, your reaction to hearing in private the president has been doing what he has done publicly, urging his own attorney generalton investigate hillary clinton. >> you alluded to there at the top of the program. this is a tin pot dictator