russia impact but it's more about his businesses? >> his businesses. it wraps back around when it started to bubble up that information was being discovered about the relationships and the nature of those relationships that translate to his business. that's what he wants to shut down, which is why it gets back to the first thing in his campaign, he won't show you his tax returns. because his corporate tax returns give you the footprint you need to follow at the end of the day. >> i don't think you would have scripted him better on that one. >> no, i wouldn't have. one of the things that's so interesting, chuck, is that there is one place in washington that isn't leaking and doesn't talk about this. it is the investigation. when we occasionally get a glimpse, for instance when we got a glimpse of michael cohen's business dealings for example, and it turns out they have known that for months, none of us knew they were looking at these things. so at the end of the day we don't really know. what we do know is that they are running a very tough investigation over there and that they do have indictments. >> i got more from vaughn hill
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