there was an effort after the election to brag about its effectiveness. >> it seems that way. the other thing that's interesting about this is the august 3rd meeting is sort of the beginning. before then george nader didn't know the up from campaign and they didn't know george nader. but after that he begins to have a series of high-level meetings with kushner, with bannon, with general flynn. so whatever happened in that campaign, maybe don jr. said i'm not interested. but somehow that campaign was the genesis of a relationship between george nader, the adviser to the united arab emirates, and the trump campaign that went on through the transition and even into the period when trump was in the white house. >> one of the other things that strikes me about your reporting, david, is the described campaign, the social media manipulation campaign sounds very much like a description of what we in fact saw during the campaign that's been attributed among other places in the indictment of russian individuals and businesses that