heard within the past few minutes in that news conference from the governor is that the two weapons, the 38 caliber revolver and that shotgun that the suspect used, police believe that he got those from his father and they're trying to determine if the father even knew that his son may have gotten hold of those weapons, nicolle. >> gabe gutierrez, thank you so much for starting us off. here with us for the hour, dave cohen, author columbine. michael balboni, mar a gay, member of the "the new york times" editorial board. let me start with you and ask you two questions about law enforcement and what they're going through at this hour. i thought it was remarkable for the governor to talk about the shooter's journal entries already. i thought that that kind of came as the second phase when you try to ascertain motive. did that surprise you at all? and is there anything we haven't heard that you've heard from law enforcement officials about what went down today, the tragedy in santa fe? >> obviously the focus is going to be what possible motivations.