information to the industrialist in moscow who had done business with trump, it's a long dpli complicated story. then to the son, then to promoter and then to donald trump jr. >> right. >> it's classic russian stuff. in other words, there are so many people in that pipeline that you get two things out of it, you get confusion, took us a long time to figure that out. number two, you get plausible denial. number three, the russians get a down payment because donald trump jr. took the bait. when they offered dirt on hillary, he said yes. if that had never been discovered, if the press had r never picked it up and two years from now russia wanted something from the trump administration, they have what's called kompromat, have an e-mail in which donald trump jr. "a" says i'm game, and "b" did not notify the fbi. >> so maybe the press saved don jr. from later headaches. >> i think -- >> or perhaps the country. john mclaughlin, jeremy bash,